Let’s say that one day the person you like comes up and proposes a wild idea. He or she proposes that you both spend the rest of your lives together. The idea sounds radical at first then when it starts to seep inside of your every corner of your brain the idea isn’t as radical as it seemed. Just when you start to come around you realize that he or she isn’t talking about marriage at all, they just want you to coexist and be their nightly adult company. Given the situation I would have to choose the more logical voice.
“The passionate shepherd to his love” written by Christopher Marlowe is a love note in the form of a poem. Here Christopher writes as a Shepherd his lover, the Nymph, and proposes the idea that the Nymph should come and live with him. The shepherd gives her multiple reasons why she should come and stay with him. He makes it sound so delightful, Marlowe paints a picture of both the Nymph and the Shepherd running in the woods naked free and happy. He puts the image of them being naked so that it symbolizes both the fact of them being able to let loose and live in the moment as well as to show their other activities. The shepherd pleas for the nymph to see his reasoning, the shepherd even goes as far as to promise to shower her in gifts so that she will never be unhappy. With the gifts how could she ever be unhappy? We only get one side of these questions, the shepherd. The language he uses shows that he is desperate and the types of gifts that is listed that will be given to the nymph shows how desperate the shepherd is to get her to say yes. But he isn’t asking for marriage he wants less than that, he wants to coexist with out the boundaries that marriage gives. The shepherd wants friends with benefits. He is convinced that when she says yes that’s when all of the bliss will begin, but his questions weren’t answered until a year later in another poem. Sir Walter Raleigh wrote a poem in response to the Marlowe’s poem called “The Nymph’s reply to the shepherd.” Here the reader is finally able to hear and see the Nymphs side to questions. The nymph appeals to the shepherds’ logos by pointing out that nothing ever stays the same otherwise no one would ever age a day, sex would always be great and seasons would never change. She tells him that if everything never changed then she would move in and let him shower her with gifts and she would let him have everything that he is asking for but she won’t because life changes.
The shepherd wants to live in the moment and seize the day while the nymph would enjoy that she wants to be logical about everything. The nymph seems more stable and wants to be more realistic while the shepherd wants to gain new experiences excitement and wants more than being normal. The proposition itself seemed romantic at first glance but when the shepherd’s words are broken down it becomes apparent that he is more selfish than the nymphs’ response. He paints the picture that he is thinking about the nymph as well but in truth he isn’t, he just wants his “happy ending”. "Friends with benefits, more than friends? Don't sample the goodies unless you're willing to risk addiction and withdrawal. - Ann Landers”[1]
It could be argued that the shepherd is the more logical speaker depending on the person arguing it. Why not live on the wild side and just live together for the rest of your lives as friends? The shepherd’s way of thinking is to live in the moment and escape reality and do what feels good. The shepherd wants to live ignorantly in sin. The Nymph is smart and wants to plan out her future. She wants to be more realistic and with fewer worries about what is “right” and what is “wrong”, if they do what the shepherd is asking of the nymph then they will be living in sin and they will have to worry about what society will think and how they will treat them. I was raised to believe that what is right is living by the bible. For a man and a woman to coexist and have premarital sex would be a sin. I think that the nymph is trying to convince the shepherd that her way of thoughts are correct and will help get them into a more blissful life. The shepherds’ argument to this would be that the nymph does not in fact know that by living with him and having premarital sex would not allow them to have a more blissful life. Lust is one of the biggest 7 deadly sin. It was written inside of the poem basically that the shepherd is just lusting after the nymph. What kind of life or punishment would that bring for the both of them?
The Nymph is always right.
Let’s say that one day the person you like comes up and proposes a wild idea. He or she proposes that you both spend the rest of your lives together. The idea sounds radical at first then when it starts to seep inside of your every corner of your brain the idea isn’t as radical as it seemed. Just when you start to come around you realize that he or she isn’t talking about marriage at all, they just want you to coexist and be their nightly adult company. Given the situation I would have to choose the more logical voice.
“The passionate shepherd to his love” written by Christopher Marlowe is a love note in the form of a poem. Here Christopher writes as a Shepherd his lover, the Nymph, and proposes the idea that the Nymph should come and live with him. The shepherd gives her multiple reasons why she should come and stay with him. He makes it sound so delightful, Marlowe paints a picture of both the Nymph and the Shepherd running in the woods naked free and happy. He puts the image of them being naked so that it symbolizes both the fact of them being able to let loose and live in the moment as well as to show their other activities. The shepherd pleas for the nymph to see his reasoning, the shepherd even goes as far as to promise to shower her in gifts so that she will never be unhappy. With the gifts how could she ever be unhappy? We only get one side of these questions, the shepherd. The language he uses shows that he is desperate and the types of gifts that is listed that will be given to the nymph shows how desperate the shepherd is to get her to say yes. But he isn’t asking for marriage he wants less than that, he wants to coexist with out the boundaries that marriage gives. The shepherd wants friends with benefits. He is convinced that when she says yes that’s when all of the bliss will begin, but his questions weren’t answered until a year later in another poem. Sir Walter Raleigh wrote a poem in response to the Marlowe’s poem called “The Nymph’s reply to the shepherd.” Here the reader is finally able to hear and see the Nymphs side to questions. The nymph appeals to the shepherds’ logos by pointing out that nothing ever stays the same otherwise no one would ever age a day, sex would always be great and seasons would never change. She tells him that if everything never changed then she would move in and let him shower her with gifts and she would let him have everything that he is asking for but she won’t because life changes.
The shepherd wants to live in the moment and seize the day while the nymph would enjoy that she wants to be logical about everything. The nymph seems more stable and wants to be more realistic while the shepherd wants to gain new experiences excitement and wants more than being normal. The proposition itself seemed romantic at first glance but when the shepherd’s words are broken down it becomes apparent that he is more selfish than the nymphs’ response. He paints the picture that he is thinking about the nymph as well but in truth he isn’t, he just wants his “happy ending”. "Friends with benefits, more than friends? Don't sample the goodies unless you're willing to risk addiction and withdrawal. - Ann Landers”[1]
It could be argued that the shepherd is the more logical speaker depending on the person arguing it. Why not live on the wild side and just live together for the rest of your lives as friends? The shepherd’s way of thinking is to live in the moment and escape reality and do what feels good. The shepherd wants to live ignorantly in sin. The Nymph is smart and wants to plan out her future. She wants to be more realistic and with fewer worries about what is “right” and what is “wrong”, if they do what the shepherd is asking of the nymph then they will be living in sin and they will have to worry about what society will think and how they will treat them. I was raised to believe that what is right is living by the bible. For a man and a woman to coexist and have premarital sex would be a sin. I think that the nymph is trying to convince the shepherd that her way of thoughts are correct and will help get them into a more blissful life. The shepherds’ argument to this would be that the nymph does not in fact know that by living with him and having premarital sex would not allow them to have a more blissful life. Lust is one of the biggest 7 deadly sin. It was written inside of the poem basically that the shepherd is just lusting after the nymph. What kind of life or punishment would that bring for the both of them?
[1] http://dating.about.com/od/adultandcasualdating/a/Friends-With-Benefits-Quotes.htm